My Shopping Genie Review – Not so good…
I agree with Troy Dooly concerns (See the video), if you want to join My Shopping Genie or are involved, I encourage you to do a very good Due Diligence. I will not call it a scam, but this company is balancing on a very thin rope…. and might fall down.
The basic problem with My Shopping Genie: all internal consumption, meaning there is no product going the the consumer. In a lot of countries that is a controversial business model if you are rewarding distributors through a MLM payplan with no product involved. It could result in a pyramid charge either to the company or distributors sooner or later.
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John van Deurzen |
The master distributor of My Shopping Genie, has a controversial background, lots of people do not understand why the management team of My Shopping Genie has given Bruce Bise that position. |
Is in the RTE One video below- is the second controversial guy involved. Bruce Bise and John van Deurzen have not shown in the past a lot of integrity… This is not the kind of field leadership you would recommend. |
My Shopping Genie Management Team
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David Freed CEO |
Bill Shaw Executive Committee |
Andy Cauthen President MyNet International |
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Troy Dooly – MLM Helpdesk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV8Bd4cFg9o
Ireland’s RTE One Prime Time TV Show covering My Shopping Genie part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhf82b5aUUc
Ireland’s RTE One Prime Time TV Show covering My Shopping Genie part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUL5T4YSnDc
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Pitty to hear, but thanks for sharing Ted and in doing so proctecting people for misery.
This is rant is ill conceived.
In the ordinary course of commerce the purchase of a licence in order to engage in an activity is not in any way unlawful, nor is it any way lacking in veracity.
The Shopping Genie program does not fall to be caught by the arrangements set down in subsection (1) of section 64 of the Irish Consumer Protection Act 2007.
Seems to me this diatribe is just sour grapes because someone came up with something newer and better!
Ireland’s RTE One Prime Time TV Show last week did a 16min exposé on My Shopping Genie. Sunday Independent Journalist Rory Egan went undercover to investigate further!
My Shopping Genie Exposed on TV:
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhf82b5aUUc
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUL5T4YSnDc
Hi Ted,
Have to argue the ‘internal consumption’ comment regarding My. Shopping Genie. There are already many Distributors not remotely interested in building an organisation, the usual route to Residulal Income, who are generating an increasing monthly income from personal Genie Installalatios. To my knowledge, My Shopping Genie is one of the very few programmes around where the long term benefit comes from commissions generated by use of the product.
Given that the vast majority of people joining the industry are terrified of selling or recruiting the thought of being able to make money giving away a product once and enjoying a return on that gift for weeks, months or even years to come is a powerful incentive and a benefit surely to be applauded rather than castigated.
Regards,
John
i like myshoppinggenie.com
it gives me the opportunity to make money by giving away a product for free that helps people save money by finding the lowest price on the internet.
i don’t like harrassing family/friends to join these types of things, and to be able to make affiliate income and ppc income with out enrolling a bunch of people is exciting and interesting to me!
of course, when someone also wants to make money like i am, then i do share the opportunity with them and thus build my team. I don’t focus on getting people to become distributors, but rather to use the genie…that is what it is all about to me!
By his diatribe against recruiting the reporter is showing his ignorance of the concept of MLM and the leverage obtained by team building. Microsoft sell a licence for Word but the difference here is that MNU share the proceeds of licence sales with their distributors. As far as I am aware the ratio of product installs to distributors stands comparison with other companies.
I wonder who set this up as it is an obvious attempted sting by somebody with an axe to grind, probably based on a severe case of sour grapes, as Andrew says. The problem is that exercises like this are damaging to the whole industry by association in the public perception, and I say this from a perspective of 18 years in the industry.
Yesterday’s Ireland’s Sunday Independent Newspaper article – My Shopping Genie – Beware!
https://ht.ly/2KhtZ
Thanks Ted, appreciate your input.
Hi Ted ,, Hope Your Well And Doing Well And If You Are the best of luck to you ,, Ted i Also have to disagree with you on your views on my shopping genie ,, My shopping genie is at present feeding young families in ireland as employment in ireland is at an all time high ,, I personally know families at present who are making their living by working hard with my shopping genie ,, Did you Know ted Where this full story was born from ,, A lady Whom i wont name was in my shopping genie and was going to my shopping genie meetings pitching for another network ,, Due to her conduct She Was removed From Being A distributor Of My Shopping Genie ,, It JUst So Happens That She Was A very Good Friend Of The Reporter Who Took This Story ,,, The bad press has not worked in ireland and now this resentful woman is trying to private message everyone promoting it and making up scare stories ,,, If you look at the prime time video closely ,, you will see it is a completely one sided story ,, It focuses on bruce bises past which was 20 years ago ,, i mean Hello ,,, Then They focused on a company that John van deurzen was just a distributor in ,, John van deurzen as a distributor is not responcible for a companys actions ,, The prime time Interview Did not Name The Huge names in my shopping genie ,,, BILL SWAW A TOP MAN IN CNN,,, David Freed is Co-Founder and President of MyNet Universe, Inc., providing a wealth of experience in all aspects of the direct sales industry.
From the ranks of…
MyNetUniverse Good kompani!!!
Kindregard Vanin Evgeny from Russia.
Ted,
Scary Stories is how you make your money isn’t it?
Have you ever helped ANYONE out of their financial Misery like the Shopping Genie has helped me and my family?
Should I send Back the $75,000.00 I have already made, and the $7,500.00 per MONTH I am making from Giving the Genies away?
Seems EVERYONE I chat with wants to SAVE Money….
When I did I shared my experience with others and they BEGGED me to give them the Free Shopping Genie I did, and I get PAID.
Ted, I do have a small question… Did you cash the check you received for creating this scary story? If it had not been Slantted to Scare people would you have been able to SELL your Story? would you
Did you help anyone out of their misery?, Did you help ANYONE with their lack of income with your money?, Did you CREATE ANYTHING?,
Or do you just remove HOPE from others?
Join, follow directions: give Genies away, and get paid,
Simple enough for me…
Ted where did your intellect break down?
The above sound REAL SIMPLE SORRY you MISSED IT?.. Give Genies AWAY.
@Everyone,
Ted is not off base with the internal consumption concern. I challenge each of you to review the laws in your country and see what Ted is talking about.
When My Net U, decided it was better to give away the Shopping genie to the end user for free, they set the fair market value at $0.00. With the end user never paying any money to the company, and the only money generated by the compensation tree from the sale of the license fees, it seems the facts show Ted is right to be concerned.
By the way, income generated through 3rd party venders (PPC) is not used by a court of law to determine if a compensation structure is legit or a pyramid. What is used is the income paid and/or generated by distributors who join the company.
Again, I challenge each one of you who feel Ted and I are wrong, to review the current local and federal laws in your respective countries.
The issue is not that My Shopping Genie is trying to scam anyone, it is the fact they are running in a gray area, and with the history of the owners, it would be better to play it safe, than to cause undue and additional stress to the field force.
Living An Epic Adventure,
Troy Dooly
I have looked at these videos. As usual they imply a scam, but don’t offer conclusive evidence of any wrong doing.
Why do the press insist on villifying MLM businesses, while it is big corporations who are ripping us all off and shutting down anything that may prove competitive. In Australia the big 4 banks made $20billion last year and cried poor. At times supermarkets sell products at 1/3 of the retail price or less, so who is making outrageous profits. It isn’t those of us in MLM. We work hard for our money!
The problem with MSG isn’t all “internal consumption” per se – the problem is virtually all revenues, for both the company and it’s agents, comes from recruitment fees. That’s an unsustainable pyramid.
Hi Ted! We can see the huge interest to MyShoppingGenie in the world and lots of big networkers left they companies and join MyNet Universe and it is not the end of the day … Many of this companies will fight for they ?distributors? using all methods, including the ?black PR? as well.
Wake up! It is the 21st century! The MyNet Universe show the way how to earn by giving away the FREE LEQITIMAT PRODUCT. By the way, people join network business to make money, not for the fun.
I am glad what the Irish News showed one side story and it will be the lots of people who will say ?I told you, it is the pyramid …? but it will be more others which will join the Genie and will change they life completely… If RTE spend so many minutes for the NSG and it means the business is really BIG!Dogs bark, but the caravan goes on …
I am with Genie and glad what I found not only the BEST COMPANY but also the great and bright people which showed the new way for the internet and MLM business.
Will always be people who love to delve into the dirty linen.If the company is discussing means to cool.Who then crossed the road.It’s jealousy.Corrupt journalists have alwavs been.Time will put everything in its place.
Hi, Ted
you has confirmed that there is a product and it works. Thank you. The product does bring revenue
Distributors do get their share. The only difference is that thy don’t need to sell. They just give the product away. So as we see to give Genies away is a profitable business.
May I ask you a questiion ? If MNU invented a nice business that brings people revenue and they like it why it has MNU to give the business for FREE ?
The company has cost and business it self has value. so why do you think this business cant be a product ? Why can McDonalds charge license fee for those who join thier network ?
I think all ideas to present licence fee as a pyramid payment are spread by people who are really afraid of Genie’s success. More and more people prefer to move from the old MLM model where they have to sell to new concept to give away and get your share in the company profits
Please stop confusing honest people. MSG is normal business and not a pyramid.
By the way I myslef work part time and i don’t have time to do recruting. So most of my MSG income comes from PPC.
Take any decent MLM company. Only leaders live on commission from their organizations.
The people in the top have to buy and sell products. Even to get comission you have to buy products. So they have risk too. any business has risk to loose money. But here in MSg the risk is not high.
The company givves you possibility to claim your license fee back in your first 30 days.
I do not…
What is the matter with you guys?
No-one gets paid in the ShopingGenie model until a sale is made of a licence. The licence is the product. Any franchise house makes money from selling licences to franchisees to, generally, operate in exclusive geographical regions. The ShoppingGenie model does not follow this restrictive model, so the licence is modestly priced.
Ford Motors sells licences to people to operate as authorised dealers, so does MacDonalds. What is suddenly wrong with a licence as a product? If the right to sell an exclusive licence is removed there will be thousands of backstreet Ford dealers in no time at all, and there will be people selling MacDonalds burgers out of tatty mobile chippers.
No-one gets paid for bringing people into the ShoppingGenie program. Income is generated from people using the licence. An extensive array of advice and tools is available to every distributor to encourage them to give away more apps. A good income is possible, and being generated by sufficient number of distributors, without selling any licences, merely by distributing the app, to be accepted as fact. That most certainly is not income generated from within the program.
No-one is taken for a ride by the company through over-priced products and spurious promises.
As in all referral marketing programs, a feature is encouraging distributors to keep active, and rewarding upline for the number of active distributors they have in their downline, take that away and a large…
Hey everyone!
Take a deep breath and relax for a minute gang.
Here are some stats and some facts about MSG.
Currently there are 1.6 million Genie applications installed on computers.
An assortment of these applications are used over 300,000 times per day to price compare and find bargains.
3 times as many MSG Distributors receive ?Pay-Per-Click? income over 1 who receives ?recruiting income?.
I realize all the focus and attention of this piece and on the internet right now revolve around the lowest common denominator ? 40,000 Distributors who paid $199 and $29 a month for the license to give these free applications away.
I highly doubt anyone would believe that each Distributor could or would install 40 Genies each or use the application up to 8 times per day each for the purpose of ?internal consumption?. (Meaning
Distributors are the only ones installing and using the Genie.) Nor can these lopsided numbers prove that ALL the focus is on recruiting alone with 40 times as many Genie application installs as there are Distributors.
And if they want to spin that the Distributors could…
The Genie is a technology product the collects – directs and spits out very attainable and trackable data. I’ve seen it in the Affiliate Industry for years – right down to the IP address of who clicked what and when.
I?ve seen stranger things in my day ? but it?s a little farfetched when the facts are presented correctly and accurately.
Be patient, be…
“You might be wondering how come the program is not fraudulent. Well, one best answer here is that eBay itself has accredited the program. Everybody knows that eBay is trying its best to keep its integrity intact and provide the best service it can to the public, so it is always meticulous. Sure, the company has its shortcomings, but in general, you can trust them, along with the millions of people around the globe who do. This recognition alone makes the My Shopping Genie scams rumors faulty”
What you seem to have missed is that 34%+ of the company’s revenues are currently generated by affiliate commissions. Not only that, but the fact that the compensation plan incorporates 50% retention of the PPC commission by the Distributor, and that successful distributors also participate in a PPC commission bonus pool, drawn from 2% of the company’s GLOBAL click revenue.
The ‘product’ is the advertising opportunity given to merchants in the Genie, the advertising platform and distribution channel provided to licencees, the savings software which helps people save money for FREE and resale rights for Distributors to resell licences to allow others to do the same.
The issue here is that the laws are rightly concerned with cornering the sharks who would prey on the innocent, and have been written with a physical model of distribution as a construct by which to judge all distribution models. That just doesn’t work in the case of a digital product distributed by digital means, where the benefit can only be seen OUTSIDE the distribution network in terms of Genie user savings and PPC income which is then (partially) redistributed to the distributors.
As the number of Genies installed increases (and it will, since this is a free product which gives value), and the number of new distributors tails off (as they will when they find it harder to get new recruits), then the balance will be restored in favour of a high level of PPC income.
Quote:
“By the way, income…
Serguei could you provide a link to the ebay site where it confirms that Shopping Genie is accredited by it, I think it would put alot of peoples mind at ease.
Cheers
~Yikes!
This is interesting – I think Shopping and Travel is only for 3% of mlm people.
Not for the weak of heart, that’s for sure!
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I have read all the posts – And it seem overwelmingly positive! I became a distributor 12 weeks ago and have given away 85 free genies which the company has paid me $190 so far and I will be paid that every month from click income! I also know that Kleeneze, Agel Neways and many others are flooding to this opportunity. Now thats going to make a lot of people in thier up lines very unhappy. I bought a licence for 199 because I could also brand the app and have a free link on all my genies, to my website.
One last thought company ppc income will increase as brand awareness builds.
Times are a changing look at google they made $24,000,000,000 last year, whats Facebook , Twitter, Youtube worth ? And what does it cost to use them? How do they make their money (and some dont!)
The product works I give it away and get paid, If you buy a licence you can too!
Good luck all
ps based on the comments I think you should change your title to
My Shopping Genie Review – Most comments positve!
These are my comments;
1.- The application does NOT work as advertised. The Genie is meant to find the cheapest price on a particular product. The Genie takes your search parameter and introduces into the REAL search engines. Then you have to find the cheapest product among those sites. Thus the product “narrows” the search for the cheapest product.
2.- The application fails to work correctly in Ireland. All search engines used are UK based, this means that either they don’t ship to Ireland (some companies with an Irish subsidiary will refer you the their Irish company) or the shipping costs make the item more expensive (UK and Ireland are DIFFERENT countries) [For those not familiar with islands, it would be as if the American version of the Genie only searched Canadian sites and shop and you have to buy from them] Lastly, even if the item is cheaper, you will have warranty problems, you may have to send the item (at your cost whipping the saving) to the retailer.
3.- Program will fade away with time as it becomes less and less used. The program helps locate cheaper products of medium value (laptops, iPads, cameras, DVD…), but how often do you buy this products? Also, it fails on items of high value, as per point 2, an Irish person would not use it to buy a fridge or a cooker (stove) or a big TV, due to shipping costs. Cheap items are also out of reach, will any one use it to buy milk, bread or any other groceries? what about buying clothes without trying them…
4.- I back-engineer the software and did some normal usage analysis and I can definitively say that the product does NOT inform the search engines used nor it informs a third-party company about any clicks done. On a normal situation, company A hosts and add for company B, when the user click on the add a third-party company records the click and statistics about it (time/date, location…) then the third-party produces a report an company A pays company B on regards of clicks counted. Google doesn’t use a third party company, but does the something, it counts the clicks. The software does NOT inform a third-party company nor any of the search engines used.
5.- MyShoppingGenie is informed of how many Genies are installed and the distributor that installed/gave the software. They also count how many times the compare button is used, so this is how they could pay the commission, but as per point 4 the search engines are not paying as they have no way of knowing that a search was done by a Genie. In the case of Mr. Parkinson, he installed 89 Genies and got $190, that is $2 per Genie or $1 lower than said on the sales pitch. As per point 2, with time people will stop using it and then the income will drop bellow the cost of $30.
MyShoppingGenie will pay (as proven by Mr. Parkinson) pay-per-click commission, but will this be sustainable? Mr. Parkinson paid $199 license fee and 3 monthly payments of $30, that is $389 and he got back $190, so far he is loosing money. The…
Carbayon:
A recent study released in August by eCommera, revealed more than a third of shoppers have increased their online spending over the past year. Online retail in the UK continues to grow, with 42.6% of consumers buying online at least once a week, and the average online spending per shopper reaching £71 per month.
Forester Research released another study this month here is the US which documented a 20% increase each year since 2000, with another 10% increase per year through 2014 of online shoppers.
I?d think people would consider both slightly more credible ? as they both document their findings.
?The program helps locate cheaper products of medium value (laptops, iPads, cameras, DVD?), but how often do you buy these products??
And this theory of yours doesn?t apply to Brick and Mortar? Should B&M?s also be fearful that laptop and iPads sales will dry up?
Or does this theory of your only effect companies like Amazon, Dell, e-Bay, Google Products and ShoppingGenie?
Link please;
Send an e-mail to e-Bay and they can confirm. Randy Blade has been Certified with e-Bay for years and is the developer of The Genie.
Sorry one more thing @ibofightback
Can you document one example of a company who couldn’t sustain itself because it exceeded the worlds population?
Until you can your definition is an “unsustainable theory” – not fact.
I know all about the numbers, the phobia, and how Government can intervene based on what you deem as “definition”. Yet nobody can ever provide an real example? Why?
Because like Carbayon’s example – it’s not practical or realistic.
A quick one on the economics, 89 genies at $2 per month = $178. Take off the $29 monthly fee = $149. Per month. From a one off outlay of $199. The affiliate income – as with all affiliate income – is paid at least one month in arrears, which means the payback period on the investment of let’s say $199 plus 2x$29 working capital ($257) is less than 2 months. And that’s making the assumption that no more genies get installed.
$1,788 profit over 12 months. That still works. Just keep giving more free Genies away.
This is the easiest vehicle you’ll find out there to create residual affiliate income, without the hassles and investment in creating, running and managing PPC campaigns.
Genie Gems;
First, the point was made about the Genie not working in Ireland. Second I have yet to meet the family that buys a laptop a month or a “mid-range” item every month. This purchases are done far in between, laptops last 2 years on average, so do cameras. You are playing the numbers game, the more you give, the more likely someone will but ‘mid-range’ items.
BoobieDoo;
Mr. Parkinson said 12 weeks, so I had to assumed he had paid the 3rd month as well. He made $190 on 12 weeks, not 4 weeks. At no point he said that the $190 were for 1 months, please read his post.
Neither of you has address the point the My Shopping Genie sends NO information to the search engines, how are they paying the commission if they have NO knowledge of the pay-per-click?
Can one of you people that support the product tell me how do Ciao!, Kelkoo, Google Products, Shopping, DealTime and Bizrate pay the commission to My Shopping Genie?
I have captured and analysed ALL the traffic from my computer and I can see all the information on each transactions, the only thing I CAN’T see is any information letting the search engines know that MyShoppingGenie and further more distributor ‘xyz’ needs to be credited for the search. To the search engines my generated search by the software looks identical to any other search created by any other user.
I know My Shopping Genie pays commission, this is proven again and again, but who pays them and how? How do the search engines knows to whom and how much to pay? This is really bugging me, so any help on this would be great.
@Carbayon
I know John Parkinson and I know the period for which the commission relates. It’s 1 month. I’m not going to be more specific than that.
Re PPC income, this comes straight from MyNet:
“Everyone listing products on [shopping] websites, who wish to sell their merchandise and products, agree to pay [to the shopping sites], pay per click when traffic is directed to their site and their product, based on the [shopping] sites requirements where they are listed for sale. When the genie is used to direct a person to a [merchant’s] site and they click on the [merchant’s] product, the pay per click is generated and coded [by the shopping site] to the person who’s genie is being used.
Now that we [MyNet] are huge in traffic online, we qualify for a publisher’s agreement to earn the pay per click. At the end of the month the clicks are tallied and paid to MyNet at the end of approx 3 weeks into the next month. We then go through the agreement and break out pay per click by the coding which carries your 5 digit code for your genie. It takes a bit of work, but that is how it’s paid.”
Hope that helps.
It?s not tracked via the search engine Carbayon, it?s tracked from the Genie Applet itself which rides on TOP of the search engine. The only information used from the search engine is the search term itself ? nothing else.
When you go to DealTime for example from within the MSG app it takes you to DealTime from within the Genie and carries with it the search term and a unique identifier to Dealtime directly. It?s similar to an identifier that Amazon.com, ClickBank, CJ, LinkShare or even Google Adsense uses. DealTime not only recognizes that it came from MSG but which Genie it came from. It?s all coded and tracked seamlessly.
I?ve worked with and earned commissions from Amazon, ClickBank, CJ etc. for years off several sites and blogs I own, and this technology works accurately and consistently.
The click-income however, is paid from DealTime to MSG directly and then dispersed throughout the field according to the unique identifiers that are tagged to each application. My click income report matches how many application I had installed for that month, and the income that it generated.
The commission earned this month consists of applications and clicks generated from July. Next month it will give me a report and a check for August ? and then September.
And yes Carbayon, it is a numbers game. That’s why there are 1.6 million applications installed from just 40K Distributors. It’s obviously not that hard for the average person to give away, so why not?
Guys, sorry to have to repeat myself on this
“I have captured and analysed ALL the traffic from my computer and I can see all the information on each transactions, the only thing I CAN?T see is any information letting the search engines know that MyShoppingGenie and further more distributor ?xyz? needs to be credited for the search.”
I have stripped the information to the bare minimum, I have looked at EVERY single line and I have looked at every single parameter that was sent from my computer. I can assure that no search engine has a clue at all that the search was started by my Genie. I even clicked on links inside the search engine an traced those too.
I have stripped the information so much I know what my own Genie’s unique number is, so I can search for it and CAN’T find it on any communication to ANY search engine. I have looked at cookies and they too have NO information about the Genie.
So once again, could you please let me know how the search engine know the search was opened by a Genie?
I went over my transcripts and this is what Genie sent to DealTime when I searched for Davidoff Clear Water and then I clicked on Compare and selected DealTime
/xFS?KW=davidoff%20clear%20water –> This loads the page, no unique number anywhere….
Once again, what unique number is passed to DealTime? can you see it? I sure can’t.
Given that the unique number is not passed, how does deal tracks the Genie’s redirections?
As you know from the other companies that pay commission, the unique number is sent on the browser, the link looks something like;
per-per-click.php?m=scf285&u=18500&a=5605f1af-483d-42e1-a883-6dce577f712b-b9
On this example you can see multiple variables being sent, m= & u= & a= so with work you can figure each of them. Given that I DON’T see this with the Genie, I am still in need of knowing how DealTime knows about me and my Genie and the distributor that gave it to me.
That’s not the identifier Carbayon, that URL is the end result.
Please call the Home Office and speak with the developer Randy Blade if you need further assistance. The code you’re looking for is too drawn out to discuss back and forth like this.
The example I have given, represents the communication between the Genie and Head Office (I was hopping you notice that). I have managed to break it down;
m=scf285 –> Search Engine Used on the compare button
u=18500 –> License of the Distributor from where I downloaded the software
a=5605f1af-483d-42e1-a883-6dce577f712b-b9 –> Unique number of my own Genie software.
Using links is how the WEB works, the web servers can’t receive any traffic that is not web related. Thus the Genie sends a LINK to Head Office every time I press compare, this is how they populate the BackOffice information you see and they track the number of Genies and usage.
The SAME TECHNOLOGY is used across the world to track pay-per-click, all information is sent on the link, thus packet capture programs like the one I use can collect that information. My research shows that no unique number is sent ON THE LINK to any search engine.
Given that only links are used to communicate between my PC and the servers, the information MUST be included in the link, but I can’t see that. My conclusion is simple, the search engines don’t pay Genie, they can’t pay if they can’t track.
Looks to me that we have an uneducated reporter that is looking at it with a preconceived opinion. The MyShopping Genie is not only helping thousands save money every day…in a bad economy how can that be BAD. It helped me save over $700 a month on medication, I don’t see anyone else that has shown any interest in helping the uninsured. How about the fact that when someone purchases from Amazon or Click bank that the commissions is sent directly to the distributor and none of that goes to MyNet?????? Take a close look, who else out there is helping in a down economy….this program is all about helping people save money on things they were already going to buy. There are all kinds of MLMs that sell people product at inflated prices that they don’t need!!! Technology don’t exploit it because you don’t understand it!
Rod;
I have two degrees, one in Electronics Engineering and the other in Information Systems & Information Technology. I think I do understand technology better than most. Also my first computer had only 48 kb of RAM, can imagine how long that was?
You can also save money if you go directly to Kelkoo.com or Caio! or any of the other search engines and do the typing manually.
The Genie’s genie is that is made for lazy people. It takes your search parameters from Google, let’s say “ACME Cordless drill” and goes to the REAL search engines a re-types for you the search. THAT IS ALL IT DOES. A non-lazy person would have the real search engines on their favourites and would type the search manually.
Again it does not “find the cheapest price”, it just narrows the search to 6 websites. None of which pay MyNet for all the traffic the Genie brings them.
Rod;
People is completely confused about Pay-per-click income and how is paid and how pays it. Let me explain this simply.
I open google and type “network software”, on the next page I get 3 sections;
1.- Right under the search with a pink background
These are called sponsored links
2.- The main area, right under section 1
These are REAL search links
3.- The ads area, to the right (where the Genie pops-up)
These are real ads
If I click on are 2 – the real search links, no ONE gets paid!!! companies can “trick” the engine to up their rank this is called SEO (Search Engine Optimization)
Companies on section 1 and 3 PAY Google regardless of me clicking on them or not clicking on them, this no different that companies paying for TV or Radio time. They pay Google for the “target” add, the companies listed are related to the search done – THIS IS HOW GOOGLE MAKES MONEY – So far no pay-per-click
If I were to click on a link on section 1 or 3 of the page, that will trigger a pay-per-click cost to the advertising company to pay Google extra cash.
Google makes BILLIONS on advertising in general, they charge more than other companies because they can TARGET advertising to match the search.
Other companies that run advertising can only charge pay-per-click because their ads are not targeted, are generic. At the top of this page there are ads on the left and right, these are not target to the visitor, they are generic, like billboards on…
The recent TV segment on Prime Time a so called type of watchdog program in Southern Ireland. It was put together by a newspaper reporter who was a friend of a very disgruntled former MSG distributor. As a result, they spent 14 minutes slandering and undermining My Net Universe credibility and reputation.
The reporter claimed that My Shopping Genie was a Pyramid Money Scheme. OK well if he had checked his facts he would have found that a so called ? Pyramid Schemes ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme ) are illegal in most countries, including the UK, and are simply money exchange programmes, where you invest a sum of money in the hope that you will receive more back than you originally invested. As he was suggesting that My Net Universe is operating a Pyramid scheme, then I would fear for the whole of the direct sales business in the UK and Globally…a $140 Billion industry, with the likes of Amway, Avon themselves, multi Billion Dollar business?s in danger of being shut down. A Pyramid scheme does not and can never have a ?Product?. Remember we show people how to give away the App for free, and for anyone to do the same they have to purchase the product which is a software distribution licence of $199 ! A Pyramid scheme or any Illegal scheme would never use credit card transactions with Visa & MasterCard. It is clear to me when I joined My Shopping Genie (a 3 year old product and Company) that I would be purchasing a software licence and I had the option -…
– not compulsory – to pay $29/month for the maintenance of my licence and custom branding/web profile options. Which enables you to continue to give away unlimited genies and to be able to earn click income.
We were and are aware of Bruce Bise serving time in jail. But he has repaid his debt to society as a young man and now many years on is now a free man. We all make mistakes in life. The Irish TV reporter launched straight into a verbal assault of BB. What should have taken place was a balanced, civilised interview, but the agenda of the reporter was clear from the outset. He wanted to create sensationalist headlines, probably to further how own ends!
The program makers spent no time explaining how the amazing FREE App had saved money for tens of thousands people all over the world. Not only had it saved people money but it had enabled thousands of people to make money in this extremely difficult economic period in our world today. You have all seen and heard the marvellous testimonials from people who were on the breadline and who are now earning good money. It is changing people?s lives but of course the reporter was only after sensationalism. Neither would it have one of the most respected business people in the USA on its Executive Committee, William Shaw the former VP of CNN (Mr. Shaw was just here in the UK & Ireland with us).
My Net Universe have made it very clear to all the leaders they will take re course with the program makers and reporter.They…
They have just instructed one of the leading Irish Attorney?s and one of Ireland’s leading PR companies. During the next week the leaders will be furnished with updated news from My Net Universe. The company have been reliably informed that no investigation will be taking place as mentioned on the program. They have been informed that the company will win any case that is brought to court although this is unlikely and that the program makers will have to make right the wrong the distress they have brought to all concerned. In other words they will have to apologize on air for all the irregularities they made during the filming of the program.
It is also worth mentioning at this time that our competitors and our own personal detractors will look for anything negative to sling at us. Yes some of them they will be lapping up this negative news from Ireland…..for only a short while though. So please do not be alarmed, that?s life I am afraid and the world in which we live.
Note. Microsoft sell the software ?Word? for say £120 when they install it on their computer they have to insert the Licence number, they are allowed to install on up to 3 computers in there household. If Microsoft did not do this you could give the software to everyone in your street for free and Microsoft would not make any money instead of the Billions they make every year ! My Net Universe with the My Shopping Genie App work in a a similar way, however with one major difference they share the…
My Net Universe with the My Shopping Genie App work in a similar way, however with one major difference they share the revenue of the Licence fee with the guys who get the Apps out into the market !
Dennis;
Lets talk Microsoft, as you have used them. They sell you a product call Word, because software can easily be copied, they set a KEY to lock the software down and avoid piracy. Microsfot doesn’t sell you a License for you to give the software away. When you go to the shop you pay for a product and you leave with a product.
The MSG sells you a License to sell Licenses, the software is free. If I want Genie I can get it for free from the web. If I want other people to give Genies away, I need to buy a licenses and sell a license.
MSG DOESN’T save people money; Shopping, Kelkoo, DealTime… save people money. This argument can be seen as “guns kill people”; on reality guns don’t kill people, people using guns kills people. Same here, the Genie doesn’t save money, the engines used by the Genie save people money. What is stopping people from going directly to Kelkoo, Shopping or DealTime, the answer LAZINES. I type once click on Genie and I don’t type more.
No one has address my findings? Everyone prays the application how good it works but no one has disputed the pay-per-click argument that the search engines have no record of the searches done by the Genie. THIS IS THE KEY OF WHOLE PROBLEM – Click compare and get paid is not true; thus this is false advertising.
@Carbayon
“Companies on section 1 and 3 PAY Google regardless of me clicking on them or not clicking on them, this no different that companies paying for TV or Radio time. They pay Google for the ?target? add, the companies listed are related to the search done ? THIS IS HOW GOOGLE MAKES MONEY ? So far no pay-per-click”
Wrong. Google does not require payment until a click has been made. THAT is where Google make its money on the search results pages. The only place Google (and the rest) charge for impressions is on their content networks.
“Again it does not ?find the cheapest price?, it just narrows the search to 6 websites. None of which pay MyNet for all the traffic the Genie brings them.”
Wrong again. Is not carrying out the search in the shopping site “finding the cheapest price”? A MyNet source has already been quoted, saying that the Shopping sites record the click and report the data and payment to MyNet who then redistribute it. Just because you haven’t figured it out does not make the statement false. There are other ways to track clicks.
Dennis;
Another small thing; “In other words they will have to apologize on air for all the irregularities they made during the filming of the program.” The opposite will happen.
There is another exposed planned for October, were one of the newspapers will have a longer and more detailed article on the program.
I can give you my findings and I will give them to any solicitor (as they are called here) that wants them, the report is extremely detailed and every angle has been tested and tracked and recorded.
How embarrassed will MSG be when the engines themselves say they don’t pay MSG or affiliates Pay-Per-Click?
Google Product Search find the lowest price among multiple sites and vendors
Ebay (within ebay) finds the lowest price within their site from multiple vendors.
How is the result from kelkoo.com when I search for “ACME cordless drill” differ from the kelkoo search done by MyShoppingGenie? Do they differ at all? No, they don’t they are the same, thus going to Kelkoo.com and using the Genie yields the same page. So, why should I use the Genie?
“…saying that the Shopping sites record the click and report the data and payment to MyNet who then redistribute it” this is FALSE, only MyNet records the search sites opened when the compare button is click. The search engines don’t record that the website is opened by MSG; further more they have confirmed that they don’t pay MyNet or affiliates. How could they, they don’t have records of the activity.